Im beginning to grasp the concept and it makes sense in a profound and far reaching way. Thanks for your content and interviews. They bring me peace and perspective.
I am interested in that study discussed at 5:05 about that woman's brain scans when experiencing different alters due to having dissociative identity disorder. if anyone has a link to the study or knows where this study has been referenced I would love to see it.
Folks with Dissociative Identity Disorder can be effective enough in this world. Just doing their own life experience. Sister of one of my closest friend has DID. Lives independently and usually successfully.
Let’s start from the beginning. There is an objective world out there beyond our individual Minds that is self-evident. If you were where I am right now, you would describe the building where I am in a way very consistent with my own description of it…
Mike:
Anytime I hear the term “self-evident,” it is time to start questioning the premise.
We would have commonly held beliefs if you and I were raised in the same culture, country, religious persuasion, educational system, etc. Beliefs are correlated into a complete belief system. Therefore, when I observe your building where you are, I will render it much the same as you do. My rendering is an inside construction and has nothing to do with the outside energy system. Once rendered in the mind, the conscious part of the mind projects that inside construction onto the outside energy system, and on a conscious level, you and I will believe there is an objective world. What you think of as an outside objective world is an inside rendering based on your belief system of input information from your senses.
However, if you and an Amazon tribesman from deep in the Amazon looked at your building, I am not sure you and he would see the same building. You and I are programmed to see the same building.
Nothing exists until you render it. Nothing exists until you measure it. There is no outside consistent world. The only world there is your inside-rendered world, and when you are not rendering that world, it is only energy, and there is no outside world.
We live in a rendered world of our own making. It is an illusion, of course.
As you point out, all that we have access to are first person experiences, so nothing beyond that can be assumed, especially if it’s logically inconsistent. No actual defined self, no actual external world, no others can be assumed.
If you can just declare that it’s intuitively obvious that there’s an external world, then materialists can argue that it’s intuitively obvious that there is a material world.
Sometimes I wonder whether “mind” is the right word. Most people probably think of the human mind. Plotinus et al spoke of the “One” but I’ve heard they thought even that was saying too much.
I think the reason we can describe the same room in a similar fashion is because we have been both have the same mental idea about the room through conditioning and the fitness pay off theory of Don Hoffman
The description of the idea of the room from a African Tutsi warrior may be vastly different
The idea that the mental production is individual is accurate in that it can be inferred a collective cultural idea or mental societal biological system
Thank you very much for your very clear presentation. Please, I need your help in order to understand how "our sense organs (physical)) can mesure some stuff which is mental". Thanks a lot and congratulations for all your work.
Great stuff! thanks! So if dissociation usually happens as result of trauma, where the mind cant handle the situation and so fragments, and if we are the dissociated parts of the general mind of nature (God?), what happend to this great mind? did Nature/God had a truma, and so divded itself into many alters/souls?
@sonia-lu2rn
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Im beginning to grasp the concept and it makes sense in a profound and far reaching way. Thanks for your content and interviews. They bring me peace and perspective.
@michaelgibb89
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
I believe your just Jewish
@murray575
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
I am interested in that study discussed at 5:05 about that woman's brain scans when experiencing different alters due to having dissociative identity disorder. if anyone has a link to the study or knows where this study has been referenced I would love to see it.
@SolaceEasy
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Folks with Dissociative Identity Disorder can be effective enough in this world. Just doing their own life experience. Sister of one of my closest friend has DID. Lives independently and usually successfully.
@mikefaff-livingintheillusi9636
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
0:46 video time.
Let’s start from the beginning. There is an objective world out there beyond our individual Minds that is self-evident. If you were where I am right now, you would describe the building where I am in a way very consistent with my own description of it…
Mike:
Anytime I hear the term “self-evident,” it is time to start questioning the premise.
We would have commonly held beliefs if you and I were raised in the same culture, country, religious persuasion, educational system, etc. Beliefs are correlated into a complete belief system. Therefore, when I observe your building where you are, I will render it much the same as you do. My rendering is an inside construction and has nothing to do with the outside energy system. Once rendered in the mind, the conscious part of the mind projects that inside construction onto the outside energy system, and on a conscious level, you and I will believe there is an objective world. What you think of as an outside objective world is an inside rendering based on your belief system of input information from your senses.
However, if you and an Amazon tribesman from deep in the Amazon looked at your building, I am not sure you and he would see the same building. You and I are programmed to see the same building.
Nothing exists until you render it. Nothing exists until you measure it. There is no outside consistent world. The only world there is your inside-rendered world, and when you are not rendering that world, it is only energy, and there is no outside world.
We live in a rendered world of our own making. It is an illusion, of course.
Peace
Mike
@EarthMan1932
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
To be very honest these concepts are exactly same as my meditative experiences. Thanks Bernado for confirming that using science. 👍
@fun_at_work
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Opens debate
Ok folks, we are a disease process caused by trauma. Universe got r*ped, yo.
@peznino1
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Pretty out there hypothesis…i think the Spagehtti one is more plausible
@gireeshneroth7127
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
The mind is living the lies that it beholds of consciousness.
@frankjspencejr
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
As you point out, all that we have access to are first person experiences, so nothing beyond that can be assumed, especially if it’s logically inconsistent. No actual defined self, no actual external world, no others can be assumed.
@frankjspencejr
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
If you can just declare that it’s intuitively obvious that there’s an external world, then materialists can argue that it’s intuitively obvious that there is a material world.
@frankjspencejr
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
How are thoughts, which occur to a subject, and are therefore essentially input to that subject, transmitted away from the subject to other subjects?
@frankjspencejr
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
0:54 “there is an objective world out there beyond our individual minds, it is self evident” how so?
@okruzni838
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
"There is no spoon"
@Michael-el
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Sometimes I wonder whether “mind” is the right word. Most people probably think of the human mind. Plotinus et al spoke of the “One” but I’ve heard they thought even that was saying too much.
@melancholicat3132
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
How is this diferent from the kantian point of view?
@taonow369
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
The mental processes of the all does not include us ?
I offer it must to describe it as the all – whatever it is – god the Tao consciousness- is a total definitely a singularity beyond our pay grade
@taonow369
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
I think the reason we can describe the same room in a similar fashion is because we have been both have the same mental idea about the room through conditioning and the fitness pay off theory of Don Hoffman
The description of the idea of the room from a African Tutsi warrior may be vastly different
The idea that the mental production is individual is accurate in that it can be inferred a collective cultural idea or mental societal biological system
@Ivuspp
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
O universo é feito de processos mentais transpessoais
@patbaptiste9510
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Every-thing is consciousness.
Finally this message is begining to spread like rings in the water throughout this Reality Simulator which so-called humans call a planet…
@user-pb3lh3vx4k
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Thank you very much for your very clear presentation. Please, I need your help in order to understand how "our sense organs (physical)) can mesure some stuff which is mental". Thanks a lot and congratulations for all your work.
@danielarel5061
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Great stuff! thanks! So if dissociation usually happens as result of trauma, where the mind cant handle the situation and so fragments, and if we are the dissociated parts of the general mind of nature (God?), what happend to this great mind? did Nature/God had a truma, and so divded itself into many alters/souls?
@JaseboMonkeyRex
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
His radical humility makes me want to believe him…
@slowdown7276
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
How does analytic idealism explain anesthestic effect on brain lowering awareness/consciousness?
@TheExceptionalState
April 19, 2024 at 6:35 pm
Transpersonal mental processes – a modern term for beings of the hierarchies which can affect thinking, feeling and willing.